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heatherlynneAdvanced contest user
PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 8:11 pm    Post subject: Contest Rules. Reply with quote

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I recently started a contest called... "New Black and White pics never before entered into contests" in the discription it stated "must be of humans only".... When looking thru the pictures, i noticed that four of them DO NOT FOLLOW CONTEST RULES.. :( . I am just wondering what the point of having contest guidelines and all that is if people arent gonna enter the right kinda pics... If you want to enter a pic but it dosent fit a catagory.... Start a new contest... There are never enough of those if you ask me.....Thanks to all that followed the rules and entered Black and Whites of Humans Only...
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EugeneAdvanced contest user
PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Heatherlynne, I share your point. But what is a solution?

a. We can remove the wrong submissions, but our members can be hurt.
b. We can pm those members and warn them of the wrong images submitted asking to replace them.
c. Something else - list your ideas

Would like to get your opinion on this issue
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heatherlynneAdvanced contest user
PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I guess I dont really know the solution to this problem... I dont wanna hurt anyones feelings at all... But i would like for the pics to represent the contests that people have started......Outta the suggestions that you put up....... The second one seems the best to me.... I know sometimes it can be as simple as someone was just in a hurry and didnt see the full discription of the rules..... So Letting them know that the image they entered dosent fit contest guidelines and would be appreciated if they could change it or take it down....Sounds to me like the only way that we can all be happy and have a photo site that runs accordingly.... But then how does that work.... Does the person that starts the contest need to be the one to police those pics???? Its a never ending battel...lol
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noviceAdvanced contest user
PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think that it will be right to delete from the contests those photos, which don’t suit the topic. As I see it, a moderator or/and a contest initiator are to take care that the contest guidelines are observed. If a wrong image is found, it should be removed and the author will receive a pm that informs what’s wrong with a photo removed. I don’t think that it will hurt anyone’s feelings if you explain it all properly.
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jeffgAdvanced contest user
PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Another approach to this problem is to educate the voters. Perhaps there could be a short explaination of the contest rules included on the voting page. Voters could be asked to consider if the photo meets the requirements of the contest and instructed to score it lower if it does not--even if it is a great image.
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EugeneAdvanced contest user
PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think the idea to pm the member explaining him the situation and asking to replace or remove the image is an acceptable solution.

Who should pm the member? I guess it can be:

- moderators
- person who has started the contest
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heatherlynneAdvanced contest user
PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think that the person that started the contest should be the one that tells people they have entered a pic that dosent fit the catagory.. Looking thru a few of the contests u can rate right now... It seems that there are more pics that just dont fit the catagory.... Those pics are in winning positions and they didnt follow the rules... Is there a way that once the voting for New Black and Whites is over, the four that do not match the catagory can be removed so that people that entered the right pics can get the placing that they really deserve..
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EugeneAdvanced contest user
PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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HeatherLynne,

I share your feelings about the images that do not meet particular rules of the contest - rules are rules and they should be obeyed.

On the other hand, when I checked those member id's who added those photos I see that they are new to our website - so if we remove their images right away - I am sure they will quit the website. And we value every member of our photo community.

As I have noticed you have left your comments mentioning of the wrong entered images - let it be a warning. Next time if they break the rules for the second time we will remove their images.

I also agree that the person who starts a photo contest is a sort of moderator who can ask the members to play by its rules.

Thank you for taking active part in shotaddict website activity.
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lisuAdvanced contest user
PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I left a message on another thread about the same problem I observed over the last few contests. I enjoyed reading this thread knowing that people on this website have already noticed the same thing. As for solutions, I'm not sure how flexible the contest features are. If possible, there can be two weighted scores: subject/content and technical. Subject/content should be weighted high, say 3 to 1. I strongly think that if a picture clearly tells a story well, the technical aspect is somewhat less important. This is a qualifyable solution similiar to the one suggested with comments. If such weighted scoring feature is not available, then having comment by the "rule police" may help educate the members.
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lisuAdvanced contest user
PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'd like to make one more comment on having another score on subject/content. Visual art is a very subjective matter. Most time it is not clearly black&white if a submission fits the subject or not. For example, perspective in the context of photography composition exists in every photo, i.e. every photo has its perspective such as contrast, sharpness, size, distance, etc. By having a subject of perspective for a contest, I assume the author wants to see the use of perspective to enhance the effect of a photo. Therefore, we can only say the use of perspective being from very effective to not effective rather than not fitting the subject thus the photo should be removed.
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